Melnyk on “Maybrit Illner”: “I would like to personally thank the Chancellor – Germany broke the ice”

DThe Federal Chancellor’s trip to the Ukrainian capital has been a long time, but the expected sign for Ukraine may now be even stronger. Alongside French President Emmanuel Macron and Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi, Olaf Scholz was able to pledge support for the immediate status of an EU candidate in Kiev. A historic first step, action should really follow.

When Scholz appeared alongside his European counterparts in Kiev, he wanted to dispel the now solid impression of the procrastinator. On Thursday evening, Maybrit Illner reviewed her ZDF interview with her guests. Is Scholz really giving up his hesitant course?

The name of the program “Journey to Kiev – warm words or real help?” Proclaimed skepticism. The studio was discussed by Ralf Stegner (SPD), Roderich Kiesewetter (CDU), Ukrainian Ambassador Andrij Melnyk and journalists Katja Gloger and Anne Gellinek.

“Words give us hope”

Melnyk was pleased with the Chancellor’s visit to Illner. The otherwise controversial ambassador, who has been gleefully verbally blabbering across the target in recent months, has been unusually tamed. “It simply came to our notice then. Maybe even for Scholz himself, who could have imagined the devastation. The words we heard in Kiev definitely give us some hope. ”

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Ukrainian Ambassador Andriy Melnyk was unusually tame

Source: ZDF / Svea Pietschmann

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He stressed that joining the EU is not a gift to Ukraine. You don’t want to act like a petitioner, but also have something to offer. “No country has benefited more from the EU’s eastern enlargement than Germany,” Melnyk said. However, he is also aware that the unanimity of all EU countries is required for a candidate to join the EU.

And despite repeated criticism of hesitant weapons from Germany, Melnyk addressed Scholz directly on the show: “I would like to thank the Chancellor personally. Germany broke the ice, “he said, referring in particular to the delivery of a modern anti-aircraft system made in Germany by Iris-T. “This is a historic opportunity for Germany to do much more from today at the latest.”

Stegner was visibly upset

“They tried for liberation with this visit.” They are not just Europeans, they are three founding members. Three big, important EU countries, “said Anne Gellinek. However, it will probably be more than ten years before Ukraine is actually accepted.

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Guests “Maybrit Illner” (from left): Katja Gloger, Ralf Stegner, Maybrit Illner, Andrij Melnyk, Roderich Kiesewetter Switch: Anne Gellinek

Source: ZDF / Svea Pietschmann

The visit of Scholz and his counterparts was a “strong European signal”, agreed Ralf Stegner and Roderich Kiesewetter. However, the chancellor’s commitments to Ukraine were not enough for the CDU politician. “He must explain his actions more clearly,” Kiesewetter demanded. “I would like clearer words about wider arms support.” Germany can deliver more and faster and has done too little compared to other European countries.

Stegner was visibly upset. He did not want to accept the constant criticism from the opposition and called for aid to Ukraine not to be constantly limited to arms supplies. Financial, humanitarian and political support as well as diplomatic progress are all too often ignored. “There must also be initiatives that will try to end this war.”

“It’s glaring”

He vehemently objected to the Union’s accusation that Scholz may be pursuing a second Russia-related agenda. “It’s striking because there’s a charge of high treason behind it,” Stegner criticized. “Of course, we do not automatically do everything that is required. But we don’t hesitate either. Cleverness and prudence are necessary, “Stegner continues.

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Russia expert Katja Gloger also praised the message conveyed by Scholz’s visit: “Ukraine has gained a European perspective, and thus an economic and political perspective for the future.” are opening.

She came to an unpleasant prognosis: “If we assume that Putin is waging war against Ukraine, but also against the West on Ukrainian territory, then we must be prepared in the long run, the current Maintaining Support.” although it was becoming increasingly defensive at the moment. Unity is extremely important for this.

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Gloger is convinced that further hesitation could have serious consequences for the West: “Russia creates the facts every day, that’s the scary thing. Rusification of the occupied territories is underway. Putin will do anything to hit us in our weakest places. In our economic well-being, in our disunity, in our democratic procedures. ”

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